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Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

#526 2021-04-03 5:28pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Hi,
Would anyone please be able to confirm spoke length for -
20” Fit Bike Co/Revenge rims with Profile mini cassette hubs.
36 hole and 3x and also 4x

Maybe 189mm -190mm?

Thanks,

Steve

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#527 2021-04-08 2:19am

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Hi everybody I’m after spoke size for araya aero with bullseye second gen 36 Hole 3 cr cheers desperate for some help on this ✌️

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#528 2021-04-20 8:33am

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Skraelos wrote:

Need help on spoke length for
- Black Primo Son of a Bomb hubs 48 hole 3/8 axle
- lacing to Primo Hula Hoops
-front hub calls for 12G spokes assuming both can use these and only these.
- not sure about patterns total noob
-flatland, vert.
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Still looking.


Looking for wheelset 48h XS 3/8 hubs laced to 48 double or triple wall rims all mid-school.Need Tektro FX 15 Front and Rear brakes complete.

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#529 2021-05-16 9:30pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

like to know lengths needed of the spokes to build these wheels...
1) 1st gen bolt through Bullseye to 24" Araya 7x
2) 1st gen Phil wood  to 24" Araya 7x
like to get 3 and 4 cross pattern options
and short or long nipple options for both patterns
and does anyone know where to get some A stamped Asahi spokes for these wheel builds...??
and does anyone have the wheels built up for pics examples..??    thankyou!

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#530 2021-07-05 3:11pm

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Kovachi 36h flip flop hubs (3X) to 20" odyssey t-1000 rims? Anybody? The hubs are in southern california and i live in hawaii.


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#531 2021-07-22 6:56am

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20" Z-Rims to Bullseye hubs? Anyone.https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/3186/img_991560f9792613.jpg


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#532 2021-07-22 11:13am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Marcus13 wrote:

Hi everybody I’m after spoke size for araya aero with bullseye second gen 36 Hole 3 cr cheers desperate for some help on this ✌️

182-184 for 3x

Araya Aero has smaller ERD than Araya 7X's.


-Joe

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#533 2021-07-22 11:17am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Ozzie53 wrote:

Hi,
Would anyone please be able to confirm spoke length for -
20” Fit Bike Co/Revenge rims with Profile mini cassette hubs.
36 hole and 3x and also 4x

Maybe 189mm -190mm?

Thanks,

Steve

Hey Steve!

Profile Mini cassette is:

Hub-----center to flange------flange diameter
Front----------32---------------------- 43
Rear-----------30--------------43(Non-DS)/54 (Drive Side)

Can you give me the ERD for Fit rims?


-Joe

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#534 2021-07-22 11:26am

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Guys, it would really help if you can give the measurements of the hub and rim ERD. A $10 caliper is a great investment.

In the meantime, here are the measurements I've taken for some of the hubs and rim combos I've used. Just plug them into a spoke length calculator. I suggest moving forward we go with actual measurements instead of just giving part names.

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#535 2021-08-27 4:45am

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Has anyone laced 48h Haro low flange hubs to 48h Araya MP-707X hoops? Thanks smile I can measure ERD if needed, but thought I’d see if someone had already done this combo


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#536 2021-09-23 6:22am

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I have a question.

Front / acs hub schwinns2 rim 36h

Rear / bendix76 hub schwinns2 rim 36h

schwinn scrambler in production

Tell me the length of the spokes.

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#537 2021-09-30 12:03pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Great info in this thread. I'll add a little bit to it, apologies if this info is elsewhere in this post - didn't scroll through all the pages.

I’d start by looking through this thread, as there's great info, and probably answers to a lot of build combinations. Otherwise do a Google search for the hub specs and rim ERD, in case somebody already did the work. If you don’t find it, you will need to take a bunch of measurements to calculate spoke length. You need to know rim ERD, which requires this tool for accurate measurement: https://www.performancebike.com/wheelsm … h45eqrgqhe.

Then you will need to take a number of measurements from both hubs (see below image for reference), which requires a pair of calipers like this: http://www.jensonusa.com/Park-Tool-DC-1-Digital-Caliper.

Your best bet is probably to take all the parts to a bike shop and pay them to measure everything. Once you have all the numbers you’ll need a spoke calculator. I have had good success with this one: http://www.prowheelbuilder.com/spokelengthcalculator/. A shop will be able to calculate spoke length for you also. If you buy spokes from the shop they probably won't charge you to take all the measurements.

Wheel building is super fun. It's a bit frustrating at first, but once you get it down it's awesome. Couple wheel build pointers:

1. If you are taking wheels apart to rebuild, I recommend taking detailed photos of your wheels so you can recreate the build pattern exactly.
2. ALWAYS take your freewheel off first. People cut their old spokes out, and then can't rebuild the hub because the freewheel blocks access to the spoke holes. And without the leverage of the rim, it's almost impossible to get the FW off. Bad news.
3. Leave one wheel assembled, so you have a reference point when building.
4. Start at the valve hole. Rebuild the existing wheels with the existing spokes once or twice, just as practice. That way you aren't dinging the finish on the new rims while you're inevitably building and unbuilding the wheel a couple times on your way to getting it right.
5. When you get to the part where you twist the hub inside the rim (right before you lace the 3rd quarter of spokes), make sure you twist AWAY from the valve hole. Otherwise, your spokes will cross over the valve and your pump won't fit.
6. Do some YouTube searching for wheel building technique. My default on bike repair videos is typically Park Tool. I did a quick search and found this fat bike wheel build video. I do spokes in four quarters, whereas they do it in two halves. Either way works, but in quarters you don't have as many spokes flopping around, which is why I prefer it.
7. Starting with brand new rims and spokes makes for an easier wheel build, and gets better results.
8. Use spoke prep. It prevents the spokes from seizing on the nipples, and simultaneously keeps them from coming loose all the time.
9. Butted spokes (especially on wheels bigger than 20") make building a little easier because they are more flexible. Not a critical consideration, but worth noting. This is more noticeable on wheels with higher spoke counts, because each spoke has to weave its way through the others.
10. If you're using double-wall rims, especially deep dish rims, be really careful not to drop a nipple into the rim. Really easy to do, and a giant PITA to get out. Threading the nipple a few turns onto a spare spoke allows you to feed it through the spoke hole in the rim and onto the build spoke without risking it slipping out of your fingers.

Spoke nipple driver made from a spoke:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/7525/spoke-nipple-driver6156099a0d.jpg

Hub dimensions. Many BMX hubs are less complicated because they are often symmetrical.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/7525/hub-measurements5fee24fecb.jpg

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#538 2021-09-30 12:27pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

They don't want all that reading. They just want quick answers like Araya 7x to Suzue hubs is 180mm spokes. Believe me, I've tried.


-Joe

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